Barry:And he puts this thing together which immediately is picked up by the American racist right, and the networking is incredible. Rigo:So, clearly method three achieved the desired effect, to find powerful like minded racists. Rigo: This is a clip of the film itself translated in English. In his four-and-a-half hour Archive interview, Phil Donahue describes the meandering path that led to hosting his long-running talk show, The Phil Donahue Show aka Donahue. Whites have fewer sexual partners than do blacks. Barry:It was apparent to me that we were putting on a show, and that I was part of this show, and I was performing a- an important task for the racist platform because they couldn't do it without me. Boy, they must have hit it off right away. Remember, Pearson is one of the founders of the Mankind Quarterly. The collections and research newsletter brings you the latest on our acquisitions, library events, and programs. That's an entirely other level of bad. James E. Woods Donohue:if you're going to present a thesis, which places uh, places are race at the bottom of the IQ. Associate Producer: Padmini Ragunath Lisa:I appreciate how clearly Barry Mehler gets to the heart of the issue. He knows there must be more there, and sure enough, he was right. Rigo:Yeah. The American Breed: Nazi eugenics and the origins of the Pioneer Fundby Paul Lombardo, The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fundby William Tucker, The New Eugenics: Academic Racism in the U.S. Todayby Barry Mehler, Superior: The Return of Race Scienceby Angela Saini. So when things got hot, you wanted to make sure everything was locked down. It's from an interview he did in Playboy Magazine. But unfortunately for Mehler, this was not the end of it. He won a Nobel Prize for his work on semiconductors. They made a lot of anonymous donations, or passed the money through foundations and non profits. Its run was Here's money we'll send you. Lisa:So, and this is really just personal curiosity, what about Barry Mehler? Paul: And then writes about it in an, a newspaper article that is syndicated and sent to a number of places around the country. Mehler connected the dots. Rigo:By keeping the race science flame alive, they created a foundation for the current wave of race scientists to build on. Rigo:To polite society, it looked like professor's doing some perhaps questionable work on the side, but nothing that would warrant negative attention, but most people weren't really reading The Thunderbolt. Donahue - Phil Donahue : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Volume 90% 00:00 44:06 44:06 1 Donahue - 1972 - Gladys Knight 45:36 2 Jensen's vague ideas about intelligence being inherited were explicitly connected to the growing neo Nazi movement. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Rigo:So he names names, Pearson, Jensen, Shockley, and its newest Pioneer star, Phillip Rushton, and because of this, he's called onto television shows like the Phil Donahue Show. I'm curious about how you would respond to that. This was everywhere, [laughs] uh, while I was growing up. So they could see it. Bill:He liked to be referred to as Colonel Draper, or the Colonel. It was part of his insecurity, but the data for this was so stupid. And so you know where his head's at. Barry:It's one thing to, you know You listen to, you hear some kind of quote from William Shockley, but then to see a full page, you know, layout in The Thunderbolt, I mean they were just overtly racist, and William Shockley was their hero. He's a psychologist and a professor who's won a bunch of awards. Rigo:So he actually publishes a lot, and one of the things he published was an article in a Nazi magazine. Lisa:The quote that everyone remembers from that trial is when Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough." By being the first and most vocal critical of The Pioneer Fund and neo Nazis, it made him a target. And so, they always had first, a, a sense of assurity that they were right, and also a sense of urgency, the same sense of urgency that I felt. Enjoy! Stuff was pouring off the presses from him. Scientists pushed back against this hard, but Murray still gets tons of attention from the press, and it gets legitimized. Respectable scientists and academics were promoting these ideas, which is why Draper starts making friends in high up places in the eugenics world, and he kind of finds an ideological soulmate in a man named Harry Laughlin. WebDonahue is joined by the cast of "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of The Desert", as well as the Family Research Institute's founder, Paul Cameron, and drag performer CoCo There were some consequences, though. Rigo:I am, and he starts out telling a sort of funny story about seeing Rushton at a conference, but then he gets really serious. He was an avowed racist, and pretty public about it. Rigo:Yeah. This episode examines a much more overt kind of scientific racism: by telling the story of a racist, wealthy, underground confederacythat has funded nearly every race scientist out there. How did people receive this? Is it still around? So Rigo, you're one of our producers on our show, Distillations, and you've come in with a story today for us, right? You don't have to apply. There are no reviews yet. The worst thing they could do would be to harm you, and I'm here to make sure that doesn't happen, so for now, you just We have to stick together.". Unquote. 5639 episodes The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, That's the question is, uh, who is funding Philippe Rushton? WebPhil Donahue was born on December 21, 1935 in Cleveland, Ohio, USA. 7 (July, 1991), Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. Angela:If, you know, the basis of the study of human difference for a couple of hundred years has been that race is real, you don't let go of it overnight, and so of course they didn't let go of it, uh Of it overnight. You see, I don't see it in terms of we're making progress, and these people are on the run. It's the Phil Donahue Show, one of the '90s most watched talk shows. Over the years, he was trying to show the world that there was a direct line from Nazis in World War II to race scientists like Philippe Rushton, and it all comes back to the funding source. About | Browse this Partner Contact Us Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. Our agenda to port bill Blakemore has been looking into a fairly obscure research fund that has drawn attention because of this book, the bell curve, a fund. He was a legend in Silicon Valley. Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez [laughs] And, you know, and he's arguing that you can't boost their IQ by, uh, any kind of environmental changes, which is kind of an absurd argument anyway to make. Rigo:The seed of The Pioneer Fund starts in the early 1900s, with a guy named Wickliffe Preston Draper. 8 No. You know, he's really surprised. Rigo:Somebody painted a swastika on his mailbox. 8 No. Phil Donahue reminisces about the most nerve-racking episode of The Phil Donahue Show.New videos every afternoon at 3pm Monday-Friday!Subscribe To Marlo This We're not making progress here. There's a cost to negative publicity, and that maybe he's learned that, uh, there is a way of funding the kinds of, um, activities that he's, uh, in favor of without making them very prominent. Remove constraint Subject: The Phil Donahue Show, American Association of Sex Educators, Counselors, and Therapists (AASECT), International Foundation for Gender Education (IFGE), East Coast FTM Group Organizational Records, International Foundation for Gender Education Publications and Documents, Newspaper and Periodical Clippings (1950-2000), Joseph A. Labadie Collection, University of Michigan, Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. Roger Pearson, for example, had at least a dozen names that he used, and Barry Mehler and his mentor, Jerry Hirsch, help uncover the deception. It brought together two different groups, those American scientists who were opposed to the civil rights movement, and who wanted to emphasize the inferiority of Blacks, and European scientists who were still promoting the kind of racial hygiene that had been at the core of the policies instituted by the Third Reich. The Science History Institute is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization registered in the U.S. under EIN: 22-2817365. Rigo:Right. You might get something, but raise that up to 25 million to a really public place where i- it's the same thing as w- wearing the kippah. Those are the people who are the pioneers. Quote, "On two points, I put The Thunderbolt ahead of much of the American press. Americans were getting spooked by what they saw in Germany. Phil Donahue, in full Phillip John Donahue, (born December 21, 1935, Cleveland, Ohio, U.S.), American journalist and television personality who pioneered the daytime issue-oriented TV talk show. Barry:I mean, to this day I can't, you know, tell you what that does to me. Rigo:Draper's view stayed the same, but he knew enough to realize that the world's views had changed. Rigo:Yeah, and The Pioneer Fund steers their work too. WebThe Phil Donahue Show, also known as Donahue, is an American television talk show hosted by Phil Donahue that ran for 26 years on national television. I've never mailed my stuff out, but that was exactly what The Pioneer Fund was doing, and, and it was a, a strategy that they had to disseminate their information. The Bell Curve was one of The Pioneer Fund's greatest hits for two reasons. How does he keep getting the chance to put these ideas forward? Rigo:Yeah. Rigo:So this incident sent Mehler on a path. News archive:Some of the ideas found in the book, the bell curve are not new. He had his own moment on the Phil Donahue Show in 1980. But with the emergence of Shockley, they had a mainstream scientist on their team now, and they funded him lavishly from the quote, unquote, "Throne in New York" As they called Wickliffe Draper's house. Lisa:Sure. Lisa:So they really do move underground. He's an academic like Rushton, but less prestigious. on the Internet. The user assumes responsibility for obtaining permission from the copyright holder to publish or distribute this image. Library & Archives Newsletter. WebHost Phil Donahue questions Bill Clinton and Albert Gore, Jr. in the studios of Nashville's WSMV-TV, taking questions from members of the audience including Stacy Harris who Barry:I don't need to have credit. Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously considered taboo. Distillations Podcast | February 21, 2023, innate_podart_900x600x300_episode6_bg.jpeg, Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race, National Endowment for the Humanities: Democracy demands wisdom, The American Breed: Nazi eugenics and the origins of the Pioneer Fund, The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fund, The New Eugenics: Academic Racism in the U.S. Today, The High-Flying, Death-Defying Discovery of Helium. And it was a dramatic transformation. He had a much more prestigious position than, than I had. Lisa:Why does Phil Donahue have so many race scientists on his show? Rigo:Even though his work was only in left leaning publications, the TV appearances were a big platform for Mehler to refute their ideas, but he says that might have been for nothing. It gets stranger. For example, when I went on the shows, you know, the audience was overwhelmingly on my side. Rigo:Roger Pearson was a British guy who starting in 1958 ran a neo Nazi publication called Northern World out of a British tea plantation in Kolkata, India. on the Internet. 5 (May, 1992) Improving Our Image Powerpoint Our Sorority Issue 15 (April 1987) Phyllis Frye and Phil Donahue TV Guise Vol. on September 9, 2018. Nobody wants to know that stuff, and nobody is really offended by it. The real scientists. I would send in a membership. Rigo:When Barry Mehler said guys like Philippe Rushton aren't just Neo Nazis, they're old fashioned Nazis, he was serious. Phil Donahue Show Transcripts | Wellcome Collection. Barry:I really got under their skin. Rigo:And this is perhaps the greatest achievement of The Pioneer Fund, is by keeping the race science flame alive, there is an intellectual continuity for people like Sam Harris, and they don't have to start from scratch. And the second reason why The Bell Curve is so important to The Pioneer Fund is that it had staying power. Angela:And the consensus was set in stone really by UNESCO, um, in the 1950s in a set of declarations in which they essentially stated that race is a social construct, it doesn't have any biological validity, and that was signed by a number of scientists, anthropologists, policymakers all over the world. It's kind of a fitting name because he was born into a wealthy family in 1891. Rigo:Exactly, and they develop a playbook to ensure their survival. Lisa:So just setting the scene again for people listening, we're watching The Phil Donahue Show. Rigo:In the end, he did not get sued for libel, but he did remain a thorn in the side of The Pioneer Fund. In this episode, Harris explains his reasoning for having Murray on the show. Lisa:Oh, this is another opportunity for me to go Wickliffe Preston Draper, isn't it? Rigo:Exactly. Laughlin gave them a kind of eugenics spin, giving them a kind of scientific veneer that they didn't have before the Eugenics Movement came along. Uh, they had the platform. Rigo:The Pioneer Fund only cared about upholding white supremacy. Rigo:Some of it was just completely bonkers. What's going on with him? Here's $1,000." Stuff. Lisa:Okay. 7 No. However, The Pioneer Fund and the Mankind Quarterly are not just any other source. These ideas just stay in the public consciousness, they don't go away again, and all the work that he did to expose it doesn't really make it stop. You know, he's a brilliant guy, and he's got these ideas, and after all, he's probably right. Some are big name academics at big name universities. Various episodes of theThe Phil Donahue Show (1976 - 1992). Rigo:Kind of, yeah. It's been debunked a million times but we're still living with the legacies of these ideas. James Moll conducted the interview on May 9, 2001 in New York, NY. Rigo: In 1935, before the Pioneer Fund is official, Laughlin sends Wycliffe Draper to a eugenics academic conference in Berlin. After the publishing of The Bell Curve, and the controversy surrounding it, The Pioneer Fund decided to step out of the spotlight and continue doing the things they knew how to do well since 1937, which was to mail out unsolicited propaganda to prominent scientists and politicians. And actually, they found ours a bit too strict. Rigo:That guy went on to become the world's largest publisher of neo Nazi material in Canada. Los Angeles - 1985 - Janet Leigh Jamie Lee Curtis.mp4. A eugenics cabal forms with this eugenics interested rich guy, and we get The Pioneer Fund, and they begin implementing this playbook, but at the same time, they've kind of been driven underground because public attitudes about eugenics are shifting so they want to keep doing this work, but they've got to do it on the down low. Rigo:They're successful in keeping their names out of the press, and no one ties the race science they fund to them. Rigo:Yeah, that's completely right. Rigo:One of Barry Mehler's racist subscriptions was a newspaper called The Thunderbolt. And as I got up, uh, a question began to form that really took me really the rest of my life to contemplate, which was why do they hate me? Rigo:And method number two is hide the funding source. What's it gonna be? Rigo:Why do you think that is? And that's one of the things that The Pioneer Fund was able to do was to create outlets so that they could publish, they could review each other, they could support each other, and they could create this sense that this is a legitimate academic enterprise when, in fact, in the legitimate academic world, nobody was even aware that they existed. Lisa: Ah, charming. Barry Mehler on Donohue:He's got a study that compares Nigerian medical. Then I, I trust you believe there are others. Um, but most of the money that Shockley got Well, in fact, really all of the money that Shockley got had nothing to do with research. Every place I went for a scientist, uh, or a- an activist who had been involved in these issues, there was connections between them and Draper and Pioneer. Find out all the details of his life And not only survive, but was able to, um, make significant contribution to our understanding of what is actually going on. Search the history of over 797 billion With Pioneer funding, he produced one of these strange extremist publication after another. He seemed to be enamored of his Army experience, and that was his primary identification all his life, especially since he never really had a job of any sort. TVRepeater Richard Lynn was the editor of the Mankind Quarterly at this time. If a white supremacist wanted to discredit what you have to say, they, they might say, "Barry Mehler is a unreliable narrator because look at what happened." VHS Collectors It doesn't care if it's good science, certainly, and you don't have to be the most productive academic in the world to get money from them. They painted the swastika backwards." Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously considered taboo. WebThe Phil Donahue Show All Episodes 1967 - 1994 Season 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 15 14 13 1 All Overview 54 Episodes IMDB TMDB TVDB Fanart.tv JustWatch Wikipedia Rigo:They're projecting, obviously. He was a member of the magazine's advisory board. So, Lisa, I know that you've done some research on eugenics because we've done other episodes that touch on it. Rigo:Mehler not only sent out his subscriptions, but he was also a due paying member of white supremacist organizations. Rigo:Okay. Digitized material in this online archive may document imagery or language that reflects racist, ableist, sexist, homophobic, or otherwise offensive and harmful beliefs and actions in history. Barry Mehler on Donohue:I gave a press conference and he came to hear me and I gave a paper and afterwards we sat down for a cup of coffee together and he said, Barry, you made some excellent points, but this Neo Nazi business, I mean, I know these people, you talking about stand up guys. And I said, Phil, you're in a stand up. But what Barry Mehler did was to go deeper. Rigo:Yeah. Rigo:Yeah. Phil Donahue's Rigo:Yeah. Lisa:This is that method one you mentioned, right? So about the third or fourth show, Iwent out in the audience and it saved us. So Cox, and Laughlin, and Draper all have a hand in this racist advocacy right up to the floor of, of the Senate, as well as over in Germany. He doesn't actually stay to fight the war with the Nazis, but he brags about his military tourism. No one asked any embarrassing questions, you know-. Bill:In general, Pioneer funded two different groups of recipients. Phillip John Donahue (born December 21, 1935) is an American media personality, writer, film producer, and the creator and host of The Phil Donahue Show. His television program, later known as Donahue, was the first talk show format that included audience participation. The show had a 29-year run on national television in America It's kind of a misunderstanding, or a misuse of Darwin's theory of evolution, and it's actually interesting that it's Darwin's cousin, his half cousin, Sir Francis Galton, who really advocates for this idea of genetic determinism. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. Innate Themecomposed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Rigo:Yeah, and it claimed that Black people were a threat to civilization, and that they should be repatriated back to Africa. on the Internet. Barry:Laughlin had the in roads, uh, the contact with legislators, the machinery of propaganda, and Draper had the money, and those two things went together to make Laughlin the first president of the foundation that was formed by Draper. Rigo:No. Actually, this brings something up for me. They understood that tides were turning but they weren't ready to go away. Barry:Most people had this view that we were making progress, that everything was getting better, and that World War II was just another move on the road towards progress, and I really didn't see it that way. Let me read this. I really hope this will be of interest to you." Barry:Jerry Hirsch sued Roger Pearson, so we were able to get a deposition under oath, and I prepared a list for Jerry's attorney to simply ask, uh, Pearson, "Have you published under this name, this name, this name, this name?" I mean, I annoyed them a lot, and so, the- they're calling up civil rights groups, the people that might know me, and trying to, uh, get information, and they said this in their investigation, you know, uh, for a possible lawsuit. So I'm gonna go back to that book in a bit. Lisa:Wow. MSNBC canceled Phil Donahues talkshow after an internal memo (leaked to the All Your TV website, 2/25/03) argued that he would be a difficult public face for NBC in a time of war. The father is just driving along proud of his son. WebNeil Diamond on the Phil Donahue show 1993 - full show Kathleen Mosley 19.1K subscribers Subscribe 180K views 7 years ago Neil Diamond on the Phil Donahue show WebEmployment at the Library & Archives. The result: Donahue, the longest running syndicated talk show in television history with its 29 year on-air reign. Despite what most people would agree were really problematic endeavors, Pearson did not have trouble finding a job in academia. I mean at the time it was released, The Bell Curve, I, I know was widely discredited by a lot of mainstream scientists. Phil Donahue Show was my favourite! Rigo:So the Mankind Quarterly was not taken seriously by their academics, and you can see that in their impact score. The Special Collections Department collects and preserves rare and unique materials including rare books, oral histories, university archives, historical manuscripts, maps, microfilm, photographs, art and artifacts. Phil Donahue, who may be television's most prominent advocate of that school, taped five episodes of ''Donahue,'' his syndicated talk show, in the Soviet Union last month. The Academy of Television Arts & Sciences Foundation Presents. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. Ironically, the Third Reich thought that this was too extreme for them, and so they didn't use the one drop of Jewish blood made you Jewish. I mean, he's, he's this well spoken fellow in a nice suit. The Phil Donahue Show with John Wayne (1976) John Wayne appears on a 1976 episode of Donahue in front of an audience largely populated by women, and he Rigo:Yeah. One were actual scientists working on projects that Pioneer though w- would have results that could be exploited for their political agenda. He ran the Phil Donahue show for almost 3 decades with nearly 7000 one-hour daily shows. Although it was widely dismissed, it is still cited today as evidence that white people are smarter than Black people, and it's all biological. Rigo:Barry Mehler is 75 years old now, and he's retired from teaching. Lisa:Hi, Rigo. WZZM:We begin tonight with that viral video filled with profanity made by a long time Ferris state university, professor. Barry:You know when you don't want to know? Funding wasn't an issue for them, they had Wickliffe Draper. it's an offer that, uh, for $9,999, I can go with him on a tour of Antarctica to tour the Nazi's secret flying saucer base, or for $9.99, I could get a replica, a model of the Of the Nazi flying saucer which was a Frisbee with a swastika on it. He fired almost all of the current faculty, and made openings for other neo Nazi scientists. Even though, to be frank, it's also bad science. Barry:I had to really refrain from, um, speculating on Phil Rushton's penis size, but here was a guy who, "They may have bigger penises, but I've got a bigger brain." Rigo:That was Angela Saini, the author of the bookSuperior: The Return of Race Science. Barry:They have their own printing presses, their own journals. It was the first talk show that included audience participation and ran for 29 years on national TV. They created a foundation for the current wave of race science other neo Nazi.... 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